Better Odds Craps Or Blackjack

  1. Best Odds Craps Or Blackjack
  2. Better Odds Craps Or Roulette
  3. Which Has Better Odds Craps Or Blackjack

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The casino always comes out ahead in the long run, but the house edge on certain games - craps, blackjack, or baccarat, for example - can actually be so slight that if you play them right, your. The bet pays higher odds if players get the hands naturally, as opposed to using wild cards. Roll to win Craps Roll To Win Craps is a groundbreaking semi-autonomous craps game which allows players to shoot real dice across a large LED playing field screen.

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mason2386
As a regular player of both games and not a counter, I am wondering which game you believe has a better payoff over the long haul?
surrender88s
'regular player'. If this regular player learns basic strategy and plays at a decent place, he'll have a lower house edge... although, he may end up gambling more due to the speed of the game. The question is a little vague, there are grey areas as far as calculating house edge, amount of loss returned in comps, etc.
'Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.' -Warren Buffett on risk/return
mason2386
Using basic strategy at BJ and Craps, regardless of comps, which game do you believe will payout greater after a long grind?
Better Odds Craps Or Blackjack
surrender88s
You'll lose the majority of the time that you play either. It all really depends, there isn't a 'basic strategy' for craps. Question is way too vague. You can have fun playing either.
'Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.' -Warren Buffett on risk/return
mason2386
In what way vague? How would you more narrow down the question?
Dieter

In what way vague? How would you more narrow down the question?


We have a fair idea of the house edge involved and game pace when flat-betting table minimum and playing basic strategy at blackjack.
How are you betting at craps?
May the cards fall in your favor.
surrender88s
It's like saying, which car will get better mileage, the Ford, or the Mazda?
First off, I'm really trying to figure out what you're really asking about. Like, are you planning to only play one game, and you need help picking one? Are you having an argument with a friend? Clarify your question, which might help people answer.
Blackjack and Craps are two games that can be played very differently. You can vary your bets. In craps, you can choose several different bets. Which bets you choose and how much you bet on each will change your variance and expected value. And therefore, it will change your expectation of how much you'll win or lose in a session. Also, your ability to make correct plays in blackjack(basic strategy) could change the house edge up to 10%(if you're horrible to begin with).
You'd have to communicate how you intend to play either game, with more specificity, or less vagueness.
'Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.' -Warren Buffett on risk/return
mcallister3200
The answer will be slightly different depending on the rules of each game in the casino you play. If craps allow 10x or more odds and you strictly play pass or don't pass and dc or come bets with max odds, you'll be slightly better off than playing a h17 6 deck games. If you're going to place other bets on a craps table or the casino only allows double odds or 3-5x, probably better off playing basic in blackjack so long as bj pays 3:2. Craps with high odds multiples will have much larger swings than flat betting blackjack, if you're going to play craps at 10x or more odds make sure you have the stomach and wallet for it.
RS

The answer will be slightly different depending on the rules of each game in the casino you play. If craps allow 10x or more odds and you strictly play pass or don't pass and dc or come bets with max odds, you'll be slightly better off than playing a h17 6 deck games. If you're going to place other bets on a craps table or the casino only allows double odds or 3-5x, probably better off playing basic in blackjack so long as bj pays 3:2. Craps with high odds multiples will have much larger swings than flat betting blackjack, if you're going to play craps at 10x or more odds make sure you have the stomach and wallet for it.


Partially agree.
If they have a $5 min with 10x odds, and you like to have about $50 in action at a time, then of course, that's much better than betting $50 at a blackjack table. But chances are, if they have $5 craps then they'll have $5 or $10 BJ. Small chance they have a $5 dice game but lowest min on BJ be $50.
CrapsAnyway, it really doesn't matter. Pick and play whichever game you like more. Or if you prefer, play a bit of each.
FleaStiff
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As a regular player of both games and not a counter, I am wondering which game you believe has a better payoff over the long haul?

The primary question is which player is having more fun, because that is ALWAYS the primary question. Its your money and you are the one selecting the House Edge, Odds, Playing Strategy, etc.
BetterIf you play craps by always betting Big Red you are at 16point something disadvantage any probably a fool to be doing it, but if that is how you enjoy throwing your money away, so be it.

Best Odds Craps Or Blackjack

Better Odds Craps Or BlackjackIf you play blackjack and can't add you probably won't make much money but dealers will call your hand if you ask them to. Its up to your style of play and enjoyment.
An average intelligent player equally familiar with the intricacies and strategies of each game is going to comped a smidgen more at BlackJack than at Craps. That right there tells you the casino values your play more at blackjack, but not by all that much.

Better Odds Craps Or Roulette

So when all the free drinks are factored in, it comes down to the original question. Which one do you enjoy more because the math difference between the two games ain't worth the shoe leather used up walking from one to the other.
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The question “Does craps or blackjack offer better odds” was posed to me at breakfast this morning with Ryan.

I said “Blackjack”.

Ryan replied, “I’ll make you a $10 bet that Craps has better odds than Blackjack”.

I took that bet.

The problem with this bet is a common one in business… it’s a very poorly defined contract. We did not write it down. We didn’t define a number of key terms. We didn’t say which situation this should apply to.

Here is some of the issues:

  • Real life or hypothetical? Hypothetically, Craps could approach nearly 49.999% odds of winning for the player if the player only played the pass line bet than went 1,000 time higher on the Odds bet. In real life, the very best deal we could find was a casino in Vegas offering 100 to 1 on the odds bet. Hypothetically, a perfect Blackjack player could count cards and have somewhere around a 51.5% chance of winning. Which leads to the next point…
  • Is this just a one time bet or over the course of an entire day of playing the game? I was thinking it was over the course of time… no one just plays one hand of Blackjack, you sit down and play for awhile. Ryan thought it was just one individual bet inside of one single toss of the dice for Craps.
  • I also simply have never played Craps and had to have him explain the structure to me. Ryan seemed more knowledgeable in Craps, but not an expert. He did not seem to know much about Blackjack, and I know just enough to be mildly dangerous.
  • In a casino or at home? I think we both meant in a casino, but this was not defined.
  • Bad players vs good players vs optimal players vs superhuman players? Most people who play both craps and poker are not good players and lose significant money at both. This article from UNLV analyzes this a bit… a craps player playing pass / come gives the house a 1.4% advantage, but a player playing craps with pass/come with double odds only gives the house a 0.6% advantage. The average blackjack player gives the house 2% odds, a good blackjack player only gives the house a 0.5% advantage, and a card counting player actually has a positive 1% advantage for himself. Ryan tried to counter the card counting player by saying theoretically a superhuman craps player could control how to roll the dice like a bowler bowls, but there is no real life examples of this.

I argued vociferously that most people can be trained to do a basic card counting system, therefore blackjack is the best game in a casino for the optimal player. I also said that an average player will do better with blackjack by just following the dealer’s advice and only give the house a 1% advantage, whereas the average craps player usually does lots of weird bets that make the game more fun but give the house a 10-20% advantage.

Which Has Better Odds Craps Or Blackjack

Ryan argued equally strongly that card counting is not allowed by casinos and we should only look at a single portion of a single bet (the 50-50 ratio of the Odds bet in craps) vs a single hand of blackjack.

I think the real lesson here is the vital importance of only making agreements that both parties have a much stronger understanding of than what Ryan and I had here. It was fun though to debate and learn more about each game though.